1. Tweets that mention The Ballad of #BotCon continues… « Tom Croom -- Topsy.com
    July 20, 2010 @ 12:50 AM

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  2. Samuel
    July 20, 2010 @ 12:53 AM


    I have spell check. Do you?

    You should thank Shortpacked for the attention.

  3. David Willis
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:05 AM

    Your panel must be pretty thin if you can’t even give one reason why Beast Wars sucked without ruining the panel forever.

    I’ll have you know that I’m over thirty years old. I grew up with G1. My first comic book was issue 8 of the original Marvel series. I watched Beast Wars in college. And Beast Wars is my favorite iteration of Transformers.

    So, yeah, your Super Twitter Burn sure had relevance to me.

    If “lol Beast Wars is only liked because it was watched by BABIES” is indicative of your panel’s material, no wonder you don’t want to share. Weaksauce, dude. Weaksauce. That kind of behavior just tells me you’re full of bullshit.

  4. hurf
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:49 AM

    bawwww somebody on the internet disagrees with me

  5. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 6:54 AM

    @David: The explanation of why Beast Wars (and Beast Wars II; and Beast Wars Neo) as a series fails in the realm of Transformers has nothing to do with “being watched by BABIES” as you so cleverly put it.

    Again, if you’re in the neighborhood of Gen Con, AFO or AWA this year – be sure to stop by. I’ll be more than happy to explain it.

    That said – have fun at SDCC this weekend. 🙂

  6. Captain Rufus
    July 20, 2010 @ 7:12 AM


    Nobody is going to Gen Con, Orlando, or AWA to hear you two losers bash a cartoon.

    At best you might get some bored geeks looking for something to do for a half hour.

    (You can only play cosplay duck duck goose so often I think.)

    So like I said at Willis’ board:
    Post it. Show us your heat.

    Or are you afraid to see your little hatefest crumble?

    Even the infamous Raksha at least had the balls to post her batspit insanity to Usenet where it can be read and dissected for all time.

    And you know what? I am 36. I grew up with G1. Beast Wars was a better show than G1 will ever be. I can’t watch G1 outside of ironically. Its god awful and ridiculous.

    Beast Wars outside of some of the silly Looney Tunes stuff in season 1 had solid storytelling, characterisation, and some boss action sequences plus decent CGI for its time that still looks pretty good on an upscaled DVD player on a 1080p HDTV. (More S2-3 than 1.)


    What was so awful?

    I’ve already been to Connecticon so my con deal is done for the year unless I call in sick for a day to go to Templecon in the winter. I work weekends.

    Don’t be a corporate stooge talker.

    Post it.

    BE A MAN.

    You may even have some valid points and create an interesting discussion.

    Right now its just funny in a “Lookit da guys trying to badly troll but just making themselves someone to yell at for giggles/proxy for obnoxious bosses/customers/family members who we really can’t yell at when they annoy us because we sort of care about them or need them to keep collecting those things called “paychecks” “.

    And even if you were to do this sort of panel at a place I was, I am sure I would probably avoid it the way I avoid Tim Buckley and that Dominic Deegan guy. (You know, the webcomic with HEROIC RAPE in it.)

    Con time is my vacation. I go to avoid douchebags, not waste an hour interacting with them.

    Quit bein dumb.


  7. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 7:26 AM

    @Captain Rufus: Just to be clear on this… you’re asking me to BE A MAN by posting my theory on the failure of a CHILD’S CARTOON from fifteen years ago?

    As far as “bein dumb” – I’m pretty sure you came to my blog. If I were truly “trolling” then I’d have posted and argued on a number of forums regarding these discussions by now.

    In short: your whole swagger posting here makes little/no sense. LOL

  8. David Willis
    July 20, 2010 @ 7:49 AM

    Biggest cop-out known to man, dude! Thanks for continuing to confirm my suspicions. Of course you don’t want to air your stupid grievances over the Internet! You know it won’t hold up to scrutiny. I guarantee it.

    What a bunch of cowardly hot air. First sign of trouble and you turn tail and run. You’ve got nothing.

  9. Joey Snackpants
    July 20, 2010 @ 7:54 AM

    You know, which the number of times I have been called a douche bag this month, I should really go out and buy some “Ed Hardy” shirts so I can truly play the part.

    Oi vey, can’t believe you brought Beast Wars Neo into this Tom. You really are bottom feeding at this point. Next thing you know, you will be justifying Pretenders!

  10. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:03 AM


    “Of course you don’t want to air your stupid grievances over the Internet.”

    Because if it’s not on the Interwebz, then it’s not true – right? LOL

    Keep trying David. We’re not going to play the game; we’re too old and we know better. Like I said: if, IF, you’d really like to have the discussion – stop by one of our panels. I’m always looking for someone to prove myself and Joey wrong on our how Beast Wars sours the franchise.

  11. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:04 AM

    @Joey: Hey! At least Pretenders were “Robots in Disguise!”

  12. Joey Snackpants
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:06 AM

    Oh yeah David, you winz the interwebz because Tom won’t play by your rules in his sandbox.

    You guys have beat the “Beast Wars is good” drum so much, why justify our opinion here. We have our public forum to justify it, live… w/o editing or moderation.

    I need to watch Beast Wars again, so I can have specifics to back-up my opinion. That opinion was formed nearly 10 years ago. It might have mellowed with age… if so, then I have more to argue with Tom about besides Bayformers. HA!

  13. Pete
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:14 AM

    Just to be clear on this… You advertise that, as a man, you go to conventions and talk about your theory on the failure of a CHILD’S CARTOON from fifteen years ago.

    Now C’mon Tom, you’re dodging. In your initial report you said “We also both agree that Beast Wars sucks and never happened.”

    All people are asking is for you to back those comments up.

    Joey, you really should. I would suggest Season 2. The Agenda Parts 1-3 was truly awesome. Seeing everything come full circle was the highlight of the series for me.

    Finally, Tom, Beast Wars guys were “Robots.” They were in “Disguise.”

  14. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:18 AM


    “Finally, Tom, Beast Wars guys were ‘Robots.’ They were in ‘Disguise.'”

    Were they, now? 😉

  15. Pete
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:27 AM

    Yes, they were. Though let me guess… We have to see the panel to understand why they were not robots and that they were not in disguise.

    Anyways, look, ask anyone who was involved in the brand back in the 90’s. Beast Wars saved the franchise. That is a fact. You should at least be grateful to the series for that… Had it completely bombed I would understand you saying it “soured” the franchise, but when it kept the franchise from going away?

    Plus, hey, you would have never gotten RID without Beast Wars.

  16. Joey Snackpants
    July 20, 2010 @ 8:57 AM

    @Pete: Yes, you are correct Beast Wars did ‘save’ the franchise in America. Does not mean it was good… nor does it mean it didn’t suck.

    I will try to secure that story arc you suggested. Even Evangelion had some good moments. *chuckel*

  17. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 10:59 AM

    @David Willis: You want the reasons Beast Wars sucks? Here’s your chance…


  18. jon
    July 20, 2010 @ 12:33 PM

    I wouldn’t be caught dead at BotCon, and I thought Beast Wars was terrible. That doesn’t make you clowns any less than embarrassing to rational people who still enjoy toys and cartoons as adults. You two losers, with all your tired clichés, pathetic whining, and what can only be described as utter contempt for creativity, give added credibility to every “geek” stereotype in the book. Being shot with an Uzi sounds like more fun than sitting through one of your “panels.”

  19. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:09 PM


    “…give added credibility to every ‘geek’ stereotype in the book.”

    Is the stereotype we perpetuate better or worse than the one where guys randomly post on other people’s personal blogs and make comments like “I’d rather [clever way to self-inflict pain] that [do something you like]”?

    Just curious. 🙂

  20. jon
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:32 PM

    If you don’t want comments on your blog, you functionally illiterate jackass, the solution to that is very simple.

    Even for you, I’d imagine.

  21. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:37 PM


    I don’t mind the comments… that’s why I usually let even the most asinine ones (like yours) through the filter. I’m just point out that YOU are posting in MY blog.

    Which, in and of itself, is pretty damn funny since you cited the whole “geek” stereotype thing.

  22. jon
    July 20, 2010 @ 1:54 PM

    What’s really funny that some obese goofball who adds “fail” to words as many times as he possibly can has the audacity to use “asinine” in relation to anything other than himself.

    Blogs, editorials, and articles all over the internet are followed by reader commentary. That’s hardly exclusive to “geeks” (or any other group), nor is it associated with any specific stereotype. Your replies are teeming with desperation. With every attempted retort, you only demonstrate just how pitiful you really are. “I’m just point [sic] out,” how big (figuratively and literally) of a joke you are.

  23. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 2:16 PM

    @jon: Yet here YOU are… posting on MY blog. 🙂

  24. Tom
    July 20, 2010 @ 6:05 PM

    @Samuel: Your post got flagged as spam – so I just found and cleared it.

    That said – yes, you’ve busted my grammar mistake. You win. I lose.

    Regarding thanking Shortpacked! – does that mean they should thank myself and Joey Snackpants for providing material for a strip?

  25. Samuel
    July 20, 2010 @ 7:58 PM


    Sure. Why not 🙂

  26. Phage
    July 20, 2010 @ 10:38 PM

    You guys are going to be at GenCon? Ugh.

    Beast Wars can be scientifically proven not to suck, but I won’t explain it unless you send me $50.

  27. Tom
    July 21, 2010 @ 12:39 PM

    @Samuel: In that case, them first. LOL. Afterwards, I will send them a fruit basket or something. 🙂

    @Phage: Scientifically? Really? Wow… and me without $50 to give you. Bummer.

  28. jon
    July 21, 2010 @ 3:25 PM

    Maybe if you had the lousy fifty bucks, you broke losers wouldn’t have felt compelled to whine and cry about how expensive the convention was.

  29. Tom
    July 23, 2010 @ 2:14 AM

    @Jon: We had (and have) the money. It’s not cost that’s in question… it’s value. Learn the difference.

  30. jon
    July 23, 2010 @ 12:31 PM

    So how much did your “press” (hilarious, by the way) admission cost?

    And don’t bother trying to convince me that you’re anything more than a broke, pathetic loser, Tom. Only two broke, pathetic losers could manage to whine incessantly about how much everything costs they way clowns did. Not only are the two of you walking “geek” stereotypes, but you’re also the stereotypical – not to mention hypocritical – half-wits who fall in love with the intellectual chicken scratch that passes for philosophy in an Ayn Rand book. Short on success, short on money, and short on everything.

    Well, everything except junk food, apparently.

  31. Joey Snackpants
    July 23, 2010 @ 6:51 PM

    @Jon: Oh yes, you got us figured out. We’re broke fanboys that travel from convention to convention like a group of “Dead Heads”, in our yellow Volkswagon beetle.

  32. jon
    July 26, 2010 @ 3:35 PM

    It’s patently obvious that a “broke fanboy” is exactly what you are, little fella.

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